Epilogue 23

      

     Another Late Addition, this from www.jimstone.is:

     “I decided to post this because there is so much disinfo on the web about the Koran that needs to be corrected.

     FIRST FACT: The Quran is a very short scripture that is shorter than the New Testament. It is not lengthy enough to hide "bad secrets". I have read several different translations of the quran cover to cover. It is a very short religious text. How short? The Quran is SO SHORT it will fit on 22 pages of 8.5X11 paper divided into 4 columns both sides printed with reasonable margins and a few sparse footnotes. I have seen the quran in WordPerfect, the entire thing there, the ENTIRE Yusuf Ali translation to English (the most recognized version, it would be equal to the King James version) and the entire file in 8 point text was 4 columns, 44 pages arranged to present as 88 half sized pages with two columns per page with the binding. It takes 22 sheets of 8.5X11 paper printed on both sides to do that. Obviously if you get a translation that includes the Arabic text, detailed footnotes, a glossary, dictionary, and uses 12 point text it will look like a big book but absent that it can be presented as a large pamphlet. So you can forget about anyone who lies and says it is a huge and secret writing, that's pure B.S, the full KJV Bible absolutely dwarfs it.

     SECOND FACT: If you took all the violent statements and passages out of the old testament and removed the equivalent amount of text from the Quran, you'd have to delete about 25 percent of the Quran to do it. Yet in the Quran itself, there are at most 5 lines that might be construed as violent, but most of what is there pertaining to war is instruction on how to pray in battle and other mundane items, and all war related topics would not fill a single page if they were all scraped up and put together. It is a simple and easily observable fact once you have read the Quran that war is simply not a major topic.

     THIRD FACT: The Quran gives very brief summaries of many of, if not all all of the old testament Bible texts, and if you want more detail, you need to read the Bible. However, Muslims will say that the Bible is corrupted, so Muslims believe you need to be careful about what you take seriously when reading the Bible. But obviously stories like Exodus and Jonah and Noah are not a significant cause for concern in the way a particular bible is translated.

     FOURTH FACT: The Quran is to a large extent a book of law. And if you read the texts the founding fathers wrote, there is little, if anything in the Quran that is not compatible. All this talk about Shariah being horrible is either the product of a spewing fool or an outright lie, if Shariah was actually put in place in America and America actually followed it, the biggest thing people would notice is that the swamp got drained. And the Federal Reserve would be gone and replaced with a financial system that did not bleed the people dry. And income tax would only be 2%. Absent corruption, 2 percent is really all you need to run a government. In divorce, the woman would automatically get the children until age 12, and then the man would automatically get them. The woman automatically gets the house for 2 years.

     FIFTH FACT: Muslims believe Jesus was the messiah, but that his word got corrupted when the New Testament was put together. The Quran fully recognizes the legitimacy of Jesus. It does not agree with how the crucifixion happened but that is a relative detail when Muslims do not believe Mohammed will return to rule them, they await the return of Jesus, to rule for 1000 years the same way Christians do.

     If anyone has any argument with this, remember, I have read at least 5 different translations from cover to cover and spoken at length with Muslims, so don't bother trolling me, you will not find a victim of ignorance here, waiting for your mail.

     Three of the translations I read, though they at least tried to get it right, were not that great. The Yusuf Ali version is good, and reads sort of like the King James version. There is a very easy to read version by Thomas Cleary titled "The Essential Koran"

     Don't be fooled by trolls saying it is substantially abbreviated, or even the description saying it is "selected text", THE ENTIRE THING IS THERE, nothing is skipped. It is just a really masterful translation that does not layer what the Quran is trying to say under a failure of the translator to use efficient English. I actually took the Yusuf Ali version side by side with the Thomas Cleary version and nothing was missing though the Yusuf Ali version was nicer in some ways.

     Muslims will usually tell you to use the Yusuf Ali version but the Thomas Clearey translation is not shunned.

     Anyway, I just had to say all of this because so much trash is out there on the web, obviously written by the Neocons and their trolls to get Americans to want to go on a Middle Eastern killing spree.

     Enough is enough, there is a reason why I am so against the war machine, and someone at least has to be truthful on this topic once in a while.